(September 24, 2013 at 7:56 am)ChadWooters Wrote:(September 24, 2013 at 1:59 am)Esquilax Wrote: Besides, atheism is a position of non-belief, not one of denial; we don't believe god exists, and if we had evidence, then we would believe ...I only wish that were universally true, and it probably does not apply to you. Some atheists are simply contrarians and/or angry at their religious upbringing. No evidence would suffice to make them believe anymore than some believers will drop their faith in response to hack objections to become atheists.
Being angry at one's religious upbringing is not a valid reason to disbelieve plain evidence.
It doesn't strike you at all how utterly convenient the position 'we could do miracles but won't because you wouldn't believe us' is?
I don't even need that much of a miracle. The right words from the right person and I'm back in church, pronto. It may take some time to get to the belief part, but I will do due diligence in trying to convince myself; and am confident that I would be successful. In a couple of years I might be wondering how I ever could have doubted.
But if that comes to pass, I think I'll still uderstand why it's silly to say, 'first, indoctrinate ourself into my religion' as my surefire procedure for getting 'evidence'.