If these resident theists really talk to god..

[Waratah]

You can scream all you want, still does not change the fact that you are a liar. Yes I did notice that you did not challenge that claim via a good argument. Did you stamp your feet a lot as a kid?

It says if you want to RECEIVE the holy spirit you must ask. Not seek or knock. Please show me where the seeking and knocking is needed in the receiving of the holy spirit.

It also says on the page that if a son asks for ..... would you give him ..... as the father. Does this mean that if you are a father but your children are dead that you cannot receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

Does the son have to ask for bread, fish or egg for you to receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

What if you do not know how to give good gifts. Does this mean you cannot receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

I hope that I have shown that just because it is on the page does not automatically make it important to RECEIVE the holy spirit.

What about your assertion that the parable is talking about a neighbour and not a friend. To me this is a clear indication that your comprehension skills are lacking or that you see things which are not there, you just want it to be there. Which is it a neighbour or a friend?

In order for your exegesis to be accurate you must account for all of the contextual elements in this parable or in the explaination Christ gives of the parable. your cherry picking, and ignoring 2/3 of the elements Christ contextually mentions. Because of this your exegesis and subsequent argument is invalid. Inorder to discuss this any further with any legitmacy, you must invalidate the seeking and knocking that Christ mentions using the context of scripture. otherwise your argument is again dismissed, for being an incomplete representation of everything mentioned in this passage that Christ Himself explains.

The whole idea was for me to receive some of the holy spirit for you to prove gods existence. Not to find anything or to open doors. It does not say for me to receive I must find something and then open a door. That is what you see, not what is there.

So you cannot show me where seeking and knocking is needed for god to give some of the holy spirit.

I have already shown where seeking in the story is not finding. Parable has no seeking in the context of finding whether it's neighbour or friend.

Just to let you know that asking a lot is NOT the same as knocking. Please tell me how many times must you ask for it to turn into a knock.

Still no answer about neighbour or friend, which is it?

Don't forget about the other questions I asked.

It also says on the page that if a son asks for ..... would you give him ..... as the father. Does this mean that if you are a father but your children are dead that you cannot receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

Does the son have to ask for bread, fish or egg for you to receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.

What if you do not know how to give good gifts. Does this mean you cannot receive the holy spirit? Is this relevant in receiving the the holy spirit? Remember IT IS ON THE PAGE.