If these resident theists really talk to god..

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I also want to add something drich. If your not willing to provide any evidence of your illness, then why do you pass it as evidence of god? Do you think people will take your word for such a claim. I would never expect people to just take my word for something like that.

You new so I will be happy to say this for the thousandth time. The things that happened to me, they all add up for proof for ME. Not you. I am only relaying these things to show you that God is ready willing and able to provide you with exactly what you need to establish and maintain a real working relationship with you this is what I needed among a great number of other traumatic things to get my hard atheist heart back on track. When you a/s/k Youre asking for your own relationship with Him. But I took it a step further, and told God to do whatever it takes to change me the way I needed to be changed.

That is what got me I trouble last time. Because I offered to pray the very same prayer that I prayed for myself that I believe left me infected with AIDS, and pray it on you're Alls behalf. To have God do what ever it takes to establish and maintain a strong relationship with Him. To rip out whatever is in your heart keeping you from him. Whether it be health, wealth or a specific loved one. To take whatever from you that you prize the most and keep it. So that it may change whatever need be changed in your life so that you may have a deep and strong relationship with Him.

But again the worshipers of life and self, saw this as a blaspheme against pop morality and 'human decency' (one of many thousands of unforgivable sins a Christian can commit against soceity/non Christians ) and was told to die for it. Which now brings us back full circle.

Dude, your religion has you mind so twisted that you prayed for your god to torture people so that they will believe as you do. I do not care about pop morality whatever the hell that is and I live by the golden rule and moral utilitarianism.
Now you want to know what I think of your god? He is a lying hypocrite that holds humans in a complete double standard. Humans can't kill, but he can, he tells humans not to kill the son for the fathers sin but he does, he told the prophets tyre would be destroyed, but it wasn't sacrificing the little boy is a no no but the little girl, let her burn. He also extorts money and cattle from the isrealites on the threat of genocide. And as for his, he died to cover the thousand year old game hod played with eve and thought beating your slaves was fine. And paul is a sexist pig. That all leads me to think that your god is nothing then the imagining of some violent and ignorant men that wanted to control people. There is much evidence( most covered here daily and in a previous post.) I am right and none I am wrong. So there it is you with the warped morality not me, as if your god is not real ( he is a believable as the easter bunny) your morality was simply made up by a bunch of ignorant pigs and in your case it shows.
And BTW fuck you and your prayer.

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I also want to add something drich. If your not willing to provide any evidence of your illness, then why do you pass it as evidence of god? Do you think people will take your word for such a claim. I would never expect people to just take my word for something like that.

Can I just argue the flipside on this one.

When arguments like this come up I have to ask myself the question - would I lie about something like this?

The answer is no.

I will not, therefore, assume that someone else would. To do this is to accept Christian thinking (everyone is basically a savage without Jesus).

I therefore accept Drich's claim that he had aids and further surmise that he is in remission.

Here's the thing: Remission is something medicine does not really understand (a bit like the placebo affect).

So we have Drich in remission and he thinks God did it.

Lets say you manage to persuade him otherwise. Then his aids returns and he dies - but you won the argument on the internet - right?

To me its not worth the victory, but that's just me.

I think a bit different. Some people just because they can, it is ridiculous but for some it is a high. Therefore I ask for evidence and would expect the same in reverse