(September 29, 2013 at 1:08 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Yes, you'd be better off praying for the answer. At least then you'd know not to expect one.
True, but my hope is that in fishing for an answer, I might be able to underscore why the whole salvation scheme is a massive fail on so many levels:
1. Justice Fail
If I am guilty of a crime, nobody can "take my place" in the punishment, even if that person is willing to do so. No justice system in the world would allow such a substitution. Is God's justice inferior to the system offered by humans?
2. Omnipotence Fail
Does God make the rules or not? Christians propose that God HAD to offer himself in the form of his own son as a blood sacrifice to convince himself to change a rule he made in the first place. Why is blood sacrifice required? Required by whom?
3. Concept of Sacrifice Fail
A grenade is thrown into a trench during a war. A soldier leaps on that grenade to sacrifice himself to save his comrades. This sacrifice only makes sense because the grenade is outside the soldier's control. The soldier, not being God, can't simply wish it away. The mechanics of the sacrifice and how it works are understood. How does the whole bleeding-on-the-cross thing to solve the sin-in-God's-presence thing work?
These are just a few of the questions that a satisfying answer must address.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
