RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 22, 2013 at 2:40 pm
(This post was last modified: October 22, 2013 at 2:46 pm by John V.)
(October 22, 2013 at 2:26 pm)Zazzy Wrote: And they're on firmer ground than you are.I disagree, but neither do I fault them. Principle v. practicality can be a tough issue.
Quote:Except that it's not a practical solution.It would reduce deaths - seems practical top me.
Quote:So because I have the means to do so, I'll go to a civilized country for my medical care, and you can just force poor women into reproductive slavery, or injury from illegal abortions. That's awesome, and SO practical.you seem to think women are animals who can't help but to spread their legs when they're in heat. I have more respect for them than that.
Quote:And I keep telling you that this is a disgusting position. That you hold it is sickening. What a great rationalization for suffering babies. Again, if your god turned out to be real, I would do everything I could to fuck with it, the nasty asshole.As you support killing them preemptively so that their mothers don't become reproductive slaves, whatever the heck that is, I think you're sick and disgusting as well.
Quote:It seems you are saying you WOULD pick a child to dieYes, if the child is going to die anyway, and allowing it to do so would save the lives of many others, of course I would.
Quote:- or even kill it yourself-No, I wouldn't, and your attempt to demonize your opponent is telling.
Quote:to save a bus full of kids. 'K.What would you do - let all of them die because it wouldn't be fair to single out one of them?
(October 22, 2013 at 2:26 pm)Zazzy Wrote: It's not a distraction. Your disgusting post about how such suffering is insignificant is the root of this whole conversation. You said DIRECTLY that such suffering is insignificant. If you didn't mean that, then say what you actually meant and quit whining about being mischaracterized.The mischaracterization I'm speaking of is your taking a position from a debate and assuming you know from that how I would speak to a family which had just gone through this.
ETA: You'd probably think it a mischaracterization if I proposed that you would tell a family who had just received news of a terrible genetic condition in their unborn baby by flippantly saying "Just abort it, it's no big deal." That statement would be in line with your position, but I would assume you'd be more tactful if in the actual situation than you are in an online debate. Apparently you don't extend the benefit of the doubt which you receive from me.