RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 22, 2013 at 3:13 pm
(This post was last modified: October 22, 2013 at 3:16 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(October 22, 2013 at 1:44 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:(October 22, 2013 at 1:15 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Not the point of my post (which you didn't respond to in its entirety).
Get back to me when you understand it.
It helps if you view this life as a tiny fraction of eternity and we develop and grow as creatures of God along the way.
A tiny fraction, billionths of a billionth, and that's the time this god character gives us to 'grow'?
Apparently this can be days or even minutes long if you're one of the things this god apparently just likes to casually create and then destroy. No biggie. Circle of a pointless life and all that.
(October 22, 2013 at 1:44 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: It doesn't mean God created the universe as a sadistic test either there is a good reason why he made all this and why exist as we currently are.
Oh? Do tell. You're saying there's an inherent reason why a child would be born and die in minutes in severe pain? I'm eager to hear what divine free will this child has.
(October 22, 2013 at 1:44 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: I'd say the freewill to have a genuine relationship with God and be allowed to have genuine compassion (or malice if you choose) toward others is a part of the reason. You would rather have this life and the opportunity it gives you than be denied it.
Creating something with no ability to understand or comprehend any of the above (say, a severely handicapped child who will never develop the ability of comprehension?) kind of contradicts that thesis though, doesn't it?
Oh yes, but there's a reason for everything. Yes, just seems like nobody defending that thesis can present a coherent explanation as to why. Appears like the only get out clause is that such children are simply sent as tests for others...which does support the idea that the god in question (whatever that is) is rather sadistic and utilitarian in its MO.
Needless to say, evidence for any of this god stuff too?
I get the impression that some (not all) of the theists on here just jump head first into these kind of debates without without realizing they're trying to defend a contradiction. Or maybe they are they just don't actually care at all. Whatever.