RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 22, 2013 at 3:34 pm
(This post was last modified: October 22, 2013 at 3:34 pm by Zazzy.)
(October 22, 2013 at 2:40 pm)John V Wrote: Principle v. practicality can be a tough issue.On this I agree.
Quote:It would reduce deaths - seems practical top me.It would not. It would force abortion into back alleys.
Quote:you seem to think women are animals who can't help but to spread their legs when they're in heat. I have more respect for them than that.
I am a woman, and I like sex. Some women do and some women don't. Despite best intentions, often birth control fails. I think women are grown folk who can decide what to do with their own bodies. Your position reduces them to baby mills- like we do to breeding animals.
Quote:As you support killing them preemptively so that their mothers don't become reproductive slaves, whatever the heck that is, I think you're sick and disgusting as well.I don't support anyone having an abortion or not having an abortion. It's none of my business what other women do with their own bodies. I can only make my own choices, and help make sure other women get the same choices I have. Pro-choice does not equal pro-abortion, as I'm sure you already know.
As a matter of fact, I'd love to see the number of abortions in this country reduced, just for different reasons than you.
Quote:How would you pick?Quote:It seems you are saying you WOULD pick a child to dieYes, if the child is going to die anyway, and allowing it to do so would save the lives of many others, of course I would.
Quote:So it's OK to let it die, but not OK to kill it. Gotcha. You're doing a fine job of demonizing yourself, John.Quote:- or even kill it yourself-No, I wouldn't, and your attempt to demonize your opponent is telling.
Quote:What would you do - let all of them die because it wouldn't be fair to single out one of them?I honestly don't know what I'd do in this situation. I hope I never find myself in it.
Quote:The mischaracterization I'm speaking of is your taking a position from a debate and assuming you know from that how I would speak to a family which had just gone through this.So if there is a family that had just gone through this that read your post, they'd be mischaracterizing you if they felt that you didn't know fuck-all about their position and that your words were judgmental of and hurtful to them?
Quote:ETA: You'd probably think it a mischaracterization if I proposed that you would tell a family who had just received news of a terrible genetic condition in their unborn baby by flippantly saying "Just abort it, it's no big deal." That statement would be in line with your positionDamned straight it would be a mischaracterization, since it wouldn't be in line with my position. As I have consistently said (and as you have consistently ignored because it doesn't fit into your feminazi stereotype), I don't get to make any decisions for anyone else about their reproductive issues, and I don't have the right to judge anybody for the decisions they make about such an event in their lives- whether due to an early fatal disease or not.