How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?

[ThomM]

Funny how when push comes to shove, god turns into a glorified psychologist rather than an omnipotent being who created everything and can change everything for the better.

Edit: I have no intentions of insulting psychologists.

He already has changed everything for the better, through Christ



"When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit." John 19:30

All the other religions tell you what to do but but Jesus says it's done that's the difference there.

IF it is ALREADY done - then why do we need a religion - we are already saved - from NOTHING!

Sorry - the whole nonsense of the Xtian religion depends upon the FAIRY TALE of adam and eve being true - and it is laughably fiction.

Without Adam and Eve - the fiction of original sin is also nonsense - even though it NEVER agreed with the bible anyway. WE are not responsible for since of our fathers - so original sin was committed by EVE - and the MYTHICAL christ - another non-entity who you never provide proof of existence for - would have saved eve - who was already dead.


So -

1 - No Xtian has ever provided a single piece of testable and verifiable proof of the existence of its god.

THERE is a way to determine whether a god is real - right in the bible - 1 Kings Chapter 18. I challenge any Xtian to actually follow through with that - and prove its god is real. (They won't - they know their god is NOT real)

2 - THERE is not a single document that we have - that can be dated to the time of the christ - that even mentions his name. EVEN if he did exist - he did not fulfill the prophecies of the messiah

1) He must be Jewish. (Deuteronomy 17:15, Numbers 24:17)

2) He must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a direct male descendent of both King David (I Chronicles 17:11, Psalm 89:29-38, Jeremiah 33:17, II Samuel 7:12-16) and King Solomon. (I Chronicles 22:10, II Chronicles 7:18)

3) He must gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to Israel. (Isaiah 27:12-13, Isaiah 11:12)

4) He must rebuild the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. (Micah 4:1)

5) He must bring world peace. (Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:6, Micah 4:3)

6) He must influence the entire world to acknowledge and serve one G-d. (Isaiah 11:9, Isaiah 40:5, Zephaniah 3:9)

All of these criteria for the Messiah are best stated in the book of Ezekiel chapter 37:24-28:

"And My servant David will be a king over them, and they will all have one shepherd, and they will walk in My ordinances, and keep My statutes, and observe them, and they shall live on the land that I gave to Jacob My servant...and I will make a covenant of peace with them; it will be an everlasting covenant and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever and My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their G-d and they will be My people. And the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst forever."

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, he cannot be the Messiah.”

THe temple at Jerusalem had not yet been destroyed during the time of the christ - he simply CANNOT be the messiah - period.