(October 23, 2013 at 4:37 pm)John V Wrote: That has not been established as fact.
We're talking about your deity. None of it is established fact.
(October 23, 2013 at 4:37 pm)John V Wrote: It should be, yet people - like you apparently - take it incorrectly as "able to do anything," rather than "able to do anything which is a function of power."
That doesn't even make sense.
From google...
Quote:pow·er
ˈpou(-ə)r/
noun
1.
the ability to do something or act in a particular way, esp. as a faculty or quality.
So, by saying "able to do anything which is a function of power," you're really saying "able to do anything which is the function of the ability to do something."
It's total nonsense and just an attempt to obfuscate what is meant by "all-powerful."
(October 23, 2013 at 4:37 pm)John V Wrote: Maybe generosity, but I don't see that there'd be compassion. Yet we'll know what compassion is due to our experience in this life, making us fuller than if we had been created directly for heaven.
So, god is not capable of creating us in heaven as "full" as if we lived this life and went to heaven, which contradicts your previous comment that the bible describes god as all-powefful.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
