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How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
(October 23, 2013 at 5:49 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: What part of "omnipotent" don't you understand?
The part where it's claimed that it means able to do anything.

(October 23, 2013 at 6:48 pm)Rationalman Wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by that, can you give me some examples of things that can't be done by using power or that isn't a function of power. Would you mind defining power for me as well.
A crossword puzzle. Loving someone.

Biblically, the term is usually translated almighty, and does not mean able to do anything:

Matt 26
39 He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, “O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will.”

So, regardless of your take on the term, the Bible does not use it that way.

(October 23, 2013 at 7:33 pm)Faith No More Wrote: That doesn't even make sense.

From google...

Quote:pow·er
ˈpou(-ə)r/
noun
1.
the ability to do something or act in a particular way, esp. as a faculty or quality.

So, by saying "able to do anything which is a function of power," you're really saying "able to do anything which is the function of the ability to do something."

It's total nonsense and just an attempt to obfuscate what is meant by "all-powerful."
So, god is not capable of creating us in heaven as "full" as if we lived this life and went to heaven, which contradicts your previous comment that the bible describes god as all-powefful.
Actually I misspoke - the term is usually translated as almighty.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/might?s=t
Quote:1. physical strength: He swung with all his might.

2. superior power or strength; force: the theory that might makes right.

3. power or ability to do or accomplish; capacity: the might of the ballot box.
My position makes sense using the first or second definition. Your position is supported by the third. The question, then, is which does the Bible use?

Note above the passage from Gethsemane. Jesus specifically asks for salvation to be accomplished in a way other than the cross if that is possible. As he went to the cross, it apparently wasn't possible. So, the Bible does not portray God as able to do anything.
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen? - by John V - October 24, 2013 at 8:36 am
RE: How can ... kind of thing to happen? - by DLJ - October 22, 2013 at 8:46 am

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