RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 3:31 pm
(October 24, 2013 at 1:57 pm)John V Wrote: You guys also need to consider if your position on omnipotence is ad hoc.
For instance, suppose an atheist argues that omniscience precludes free will, yadda yadda.
Christian responds: God's omniscient, which means he can do anything, so we can have free will despite omniscience, or even predestination.
Do you simply accept that application of omniscience?
Be honest with yourself...
Only because that is a contradiction. The definition of free will is making a choice free of control, but if god is omniscient and knows the future, that choice is predetermined and not free of control. Therefore, free will cannot exist. So, for you to say that god couldn't avoid creating suffering requires you to demonstrate such a contradiction.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
