(November 24, 2013 at 11:08 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: You presume that a man's love and Christ's love is somehow a sign of women's status. That somehow, if these did not happen, women would be undeserving of rights, or that people would think we are undeserving of rights. Isn't it funny that men's rights are always unspoken and understood, but women's rights are often fought about, it's like it's a special thing that someone else needs to give to us, not something that we have. Well news flash, that's not "rights" you're talking about, you're talking about privilege. The idea of rights did not come from the abrahamic religions, they do not have that concept, if I'm not mistaken it was Hobbes and Benthem that first talked about rights (fairly distorted, didn't give any to women or poor people), but generally it's the modern concept that most people subscribe to these days, and if you step on it, I'm not religious but you'll definitely hear me protesting.
I'm not claiming that rights come from Abrahamic religions, or Hobbes and Benthem, or any other construct whatsoever. Rights, "unalienable", can only come from a higher power, "alienable" or man-voted rights come from our own rear ends and can be changed with what ever is popular in culture. All Human life, regardless of social status, color, creed, gender, etc, has essential worth and infinite value in God's eyes. You can tell how valuable something is by how much was paid for it. In our case, the Christian narrative states God gave his only begotten son, an infinite sacrifice so that we may be saved from ourselves. It's us know-it-alls that attempt to regulate, restrict, monopolize and re-distribute rights as we see fit.
The concept of infinite love has to be a fairy tale and indulgent silliness, if God's infinite love doesn't exist in real reality.
When I hold my new-born baby, I instinctively know she is precious beyond measure and that I have a natural unalienable right to nourish and protect and love her forever. That innate acknowledgement comes only to me from on high, not because I heard or read it somewhere. It is not externally or culturally spurred on, it is hardwired into our humanity.
"When the tide is low, every shrimp has its own puddle." - Vance Havner
