Christians, what is your VERY BEST arguments for the existence of God?

[Watson]

You think it's delusional not to believe in an invisible flying man in the sky? Which one of us is claming there is an all powerful being without any evidence?

I hate this. This right here is your problem. No one is claiming there is an invisible flying man in the sky. Your own humanization of God blinds you to His true nature, since you can see nothing past the human, you do not transcend or consider possibilities outside of your own mind. This is always one of the arguments that angers me most from Atheists. We don't beleive in 'an invisible flying man in the sky.' No one ever said that except you.

And no wonder you can't find proof of that.

First, my guess would be that fr0d0 doesn't give you a straight answer because he doesn't feel you'll listen or grasp exactly what he's saying. That's not a dig, I just wanted to try and flash insight into his view as well as my own, and as well as yours.

It was a yes/no question.

Yes, but there is far more to it than a simple yes/no answer.

Besides, i am listening and trying to understand his position, but as soon as i ask why he holds the presuppositions he does and why it is reasonable to do so i get nothing but hot-air.

Like I said, frod0 likely feels that you wouldn't accept the answer given to you because you would not understand it, due to your given responses thus far. He's basically saying "You don't understand the solution, there can be no point in arguing about the problem."

Second, evidence and logic are two seperate things, and evidence itself does not have to be either logical or empirical.

Yes, but Empirical and logical evidences are the types of evidence that are independent, repeatable, testable and therefore the only forms of evidence that can be confirmed, Anecdotal/Testimonial evidence is rather useless in this instance as there are too many contradictory claims based on this standard with no way of being able to discern between them, there is also the issue that anecdotal evidence is indistinguishable from delusion, hallucination and lies - There is simply no standard by which to differentiate true from false because on the issue of God we have both already ruled out Empirical and Logical evidence.

That's pretty much it in a nutshell; we can't discern what is true, whether it's merely delusion or a genuine experience. It's something too personal and is experiened merely by the individual.

With that, I pose a question; can you experience evolution? Perhaps you can test it, find evidence of it, provide backing up for it, but can you yourself actually experience it? Of course not, because evolution is not an experience. God, however is. Like fr0d0 said, you don't need proof of the person slapping you in the face; you just experienced being slapped in the face.

However, I will say this; it is an experience that, when you feel it and truly understand it for what it is, you'll know. The only problem is that Person A telling Person B about Experience X wont make Person B automatically go out and experience X. However, it can help open their mind to Experience X and, when it occurs, Person B may step back and say:
"Huh. Maybe that isn't exactly what I thought it was to begin with."

Think of it like a snow flake. The patterns and shapes of snow flakes are infinitely different, no two are alike. There may be those which are incredibly similar down to a fine point, but they are still somewhat different in themselves. Yet, we do not classify each individual snow flake as it's own. We recognize them all as one phenomenon.

That is sort of like experiencing God.

I'm sure you can rationalize your belief to yourself, but does your reasoning behind the conclusion hold up to examination?

It is too personal a thing for someone else to call the shots, but I can say this; from my consideration, the mere fact that we exist is illogical. So it's not preporterous to logically infer that illogical things can and do exist. And, from experiences within my life that have occured which cannot be explained or rationalized, I have come to believe in the existence of God.

I am not asking whether or not you can explain God, i am asking if the reasons for your belief are logical.

The explanation of God itself provides the reason/logic behind the belief.

So then what are your logical reasons for belief in God?

Please go back to my series of posts and discussion with Adrian and Zhal, earlier. I knwo I sound lazy and I'm sorry I can't take the time to reiterate here, but to do so would be very wordy.