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The most important reason I'm xtian
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RE: The most important reason I'm xtian
Quote:I have questions for YOU?

For me? You shouldn't have!

Quote:Are you capable of being a moral and ethical person - without believing in a religion?
Presuming we are talking about me personally, I don't know. I do know I did some pretty fucked up things before I started taking religion seriously. But I suspect that now I could be a moral person without religion yes.


Quote:Do you NEED the threat of punishment or the promise of a reward to be good?
No. I never believed in The carrot and stick approach to religion. To butcher a saying, I don't believe we are punished for our sin, I believe we are punished BY our sin.


Quote:What happens when you pray for something on a large scale - like the end of cancer - or the end of childhood hunger - does it happen around the world? Hasn't that been prayed for - for generations. Why has that NOT happened - it certainly must be something a loving god would want - even if ONLY for his followers - but never happens on a large scale.

Personally I've never prayed for anything like that because I don't think that's how it works. God is not some metaphysical genie one can summon to fulfil our wishes.
Quote:Wouldn't a god consider giving money to a church to be an attempt to BRIBE the god? (Most religious donation do NOT go to charities - they go to support the religion) Didn't the christ supposedly say (I do not recognize the christ as real) - give to Caesar what is Caesar's and give to god what is god's - when talking about money?

Hard to answer because I would not presume to know how or even if "God thinks". But I certainly think that the concept of donating money to church is often cynical and disingenuous.


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Why do you need someone screaming in your face in a church to tell you how to live a good life - something you probably were already taught?
Easy. I don't. I rarely go to church at the moment, but when I do its not for someone to tell me how to live a good life, it's to destress and feel better about myself. Church is an entirely selfish activity.

And as an aside if you're thinking of pastors screaming at people, you've not endured an Anglican church service. I remember once the vicar, who was leading the service, actually fell asleep! True story. Screaming would be most unlikely.

I should stress that the answers above are only my personal views and not meant to represent Christianity as a whole.
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
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The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 2, 2013 at 12:37 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by freedomfromforum - December 2, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 2, 2013 at 12:51 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Whateverist - December 2, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Minimalist - December 2, 2013 at 1:04 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 2, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Minimalist - December 2, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 2, 2013 at 2:18 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Kayenneh - December 2, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by LastPoet - December 2, 2013 at 2:32 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Minimalist - December 2, 2013 at 6:46 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by ronedee - December 2, 2013 at 3:14 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 2, 2013 at 3:30 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by ronedee - December 2, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Chas - December 2, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 2, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Chas - December 2, 2013 at 7:15 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 3, 2013 at 4:18 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Esquilax - December 3, 2013 at 5:35 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 3, 2013 at 6:54 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Esquilax - December 3, 2013 at 7:16 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 3, 2013 at 11:00 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Aractus - December 3, 2013 at 9:31 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Simon Moon - December 3, 2013 at 3:03 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 3, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Simon Moon - December 3, 2013 at 7:38 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Whateverist - December 3, 2013 at 10:38 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Zazzy - December 2, 2013 at 5:57 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 2, 2013 at 6:05 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Whateverist - December 2, 2013 at 6:11 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Tonus - December 5, 2013 at 4:44 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Brian37 - December 2, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 2, 2013 at 6:57 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Minimalist - December 2, 2013 at 7:05 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 2, 2013 at 7:10 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Minimalist - December 2, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Aractus - December 3, 2013 at 6:01 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Chas - December 3, 2013 at 11:50 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by tokutter - December 3, 2013 at 3:35 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Aractus - December 4, 2013 at 2:44 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Lion IRC - December 3, 2013 at 6:41 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Brian37 - December 3, 2013 at 7:23 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 3, 2013 at 7:34 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Whateverist - December 3, 2013 at 7:46 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Brian37 - December 3, 2013 at 9:13 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Whateverist - December 3, 2013 at 7:40 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Ryantology - December 3, 2013 at 7:44 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 3, 2013 at 7:58 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Whateverist - December 3, 2013 at 8:25 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Lion IRC - December 3, 2013 at 4:43 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by max-greece - December 3, 2013 at 5:54 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 3, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Bad Writer - December 3, 2013 at 8:13 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Lion IRC - December 4, 2013 at 2:48 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by houseofcantor - December 4, 2013 at 8:46 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Lion IRC - December 5, 2013 at 7:37 am
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by WesOlsen - December 5, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 5, 2013 at 3:57 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by ThomM - December 10, 2013 at 7:48 pm
RE: The most important reason I'm xtian - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 6:05 am

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