RE: Conspiracy Theories
February 18, 2010 at 11:17 am
(This post was last modified: February 18, 2010 at 11:31 am by tavarish.)
(February 18, 2010 at 5:16 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Well I've said what constitutes belief and faith. Of course I think it's serious error to hold to creationism. But then the US figures aren't so different to the UK if you un-spin the figures, and I know what's true for the UK.
I gave you statistics in the other thread.
(February 18, 2010 at 5:16 am)fr0d0 Wrote: By spiritually bankrupt - believing Peter Owen Jones's summation, which I have no reason not to, it seems clear that there is a huge element of seriously fucked up people and religious practice that he, and yes I consider very spiritually incorrect.
Have you lived in America? Wouldn't it be a bit judgemental to make a blanket statement like that? I thought Jesus taught against doing that very thing.
(February 18, 2010 at 5:16 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I see very little that's 'Christian' about the US. I see selfishness and greed personified if anything, and yes, that's anti Christ. I don't care what you say you are, I take the evidence.
As we all know, selfishness and greed are isolated in the United States of America. Nothing greedy or selfish has ever happened anywhere else in the world. I have to wear 2 belts when I go outside because these greedy assholes will take your pants when you walk out the door, let me tell you.
Have you ever lived here to be making such a statement?
(February 18, 2010 at 5:27 am)tackattack Wrote: I would agree that American's focus on captiolism and gluttony is sheer proof of anti-christian teachings.
Capitalism is our socioeconomic system. It has nothing to do with religious beliefs, nor should it. Capitalism does not equal gluttony, and is the cornerstone of nearly every industrialized nation.
Anti-christian is such a vague term that it's not worth mentioning. Why not go after the middle east for its anti-christian teachings? Believe me when I say Christianity is a formidable force in this country. Whether or not you agree with what they're teaching is another issue. I don't agree with Christianity, does that make me a gluttonous capitalist?
(February 18, 2010 at 5:27 am)tackattack Wrote: To find the deeply religious in a survey I would try asking everyone what are all 10 commandments and the seven deadly sins. and examples of each. Profession of a considered mainstream idea does not constitute honest understanding of said ideals or teachings. When governments serve their self or their people who elected them they can not, by definition, be following the teachings of Christianit. Christianity teaches to be in the world and not of the world. I don't know why I chimed in with political view I hate politics.. ignore.
That's a crap survey. I'm not religious and I know the 10 commandments and 7 deadly sins by heart. It's a matter of knowledge on the subject, and not necessarily a spiritual connection. is it possible to have a connection with God and now know the 10 commandments by your merit? What about the ones who know the 10 commandments, yet willingly violate them?
Governments are there to serve their constituents. Politics is a dirty business, but they need to maintain the status quo to be re-elected another term. Christianity is the status quo, and the country refuses to elect anyone who isn't in line with at least some of their religious ideals. The country follows representative democracy, which is definitely not a Christian teaching, because that would allow for dissent, and no church in the world needs that.
What do you mean "of the world and not of the world".
"And the Lord God said, For you are to be black and white, up and down, hot and cold, of the world and not of the world, and thus proclaimed that he was an apple and not an apple"
Makes no sense y0.