RE: Christians worship a Devil
January 2, 2014 at 2:59 pm
(This post was last modified: January 2, 2014 at 3:13 pm by Drich.)
(January 2, 2014 at 2:21 pm)là bạn điên Wrote: how is Job betrayed?That would consitute a betrayal. Now all you have to do is provide book Chapter and verse that indeed shows that God had such an agreement with Job. I read Job through recently and the first chapter again just now and i did not see the agreement you speak of. From what I see God simply blessed Job because he was just and honest and God respected him for it. (just like it says in the first few verses.)
Simple. he was Yahwehs minion and Yahweh had a covenant with Job to protect him. Jahweh removed that protection as a bet.
Quote:If your father another guy that he could do what he liked to you for a couple of weeks and you would still love him (your father) then your father will have betrayed you.I have no idea what this means.
(January 2, 2014 at 2:24 pm)MarxRaptor Wrote: The difference is that Job was a god fearing man & Satan's enemy.Where did you get the idea Job was even aware of satan? let alone declared him an enemy?
Quote: God is Job's "benevolent" master, & hands him over to his enemy for a bet.What in this story makes you think that Satan is an enemy of God on equal standing? Satan is subject to the will of God in this story, and there fore can not truly be an advsary, as a true advsary is not subject to the will of his enemy. In this story Satan has to 'get permission' for everything he does, and is even denied or limited on what he can do.
Your buddy seems to be little more than a reluctant servant of God with his own want and will that is strictly regulated.
that said (God and Satan are not enemies as you have painted them, rather that satan is little more than a reluctant servant of God) God did not hand Job over to anyone. God simply removed His 'Shield' from Job and allow satan to follow his heart's desire to a point. The fact that satan was not allowed to kill Job means Job was still under the care of God.
(January 2, 2014 at 2:48 pm)Chad32 Wrote:Drich Wrote:What if it made you the Wealthiest man on the planet? Would a week of Hardship and loyality be worth that?
That's not the point I was trying to make. Sure, if I was given a hundred dollars every time my dad hit me with a belt, it would be much more tolerable. The fact that he's paying me to let him hit me does not make him a good person. It doesn't make what he did right.
I know that is not the point you wanted to make but it is still there.
Hardship is a fact of life. no one can truly escape all of it. The only question remains is if you want to be compensated for your hardship or would you rather endure it for free.
