(February 4, 2014 at 10:57 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote:(February 4, 2014 at 7:42 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: I don't understand philosophy. I took a logic test that TEGH shared here once and scored nearly perfect on it, so I guess I can't suck that bad. But when I talk to people about philosophy, they say things I do not understand. And I don't know why they do that. When people ask me about science I always explain it in laymen terms and make sure I cut out the technical stuff, unless I'm talking to my classmates. But every time I talk to someone about philosophy, can't go beyond like 5 sentences before I have to ask for definitions :/. So yea, I'm not interested in it, plus you can never prove if you're right or wrong in philosophy, you don't experiment, it's all in your head.
If you were less familiar with science, you'd run into the exact same problem. Asking for definitions of words being used isn't a problem, so that's no more an obstacle in philosophy than any other discipline.
Then philosophy people don't do a good job of public education. Which I'm sure you're aware is a huge enterprise in science.
Quote:Yea we have all that but we don't stop there, if something by definition cannot be proven or tested, it's not good science. We may not be able to prove every theory now, but we have people working at it, we don't formulate theories without the intention of trying to check it.(February 4, 2014 at 10:31 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Actually science functions by having people make hypothesis logically and then checking if they're real. Philosophy stops right before the checking. What's the point? I can certainly make up theories that are logically sound, but if I cannot test it out, it contributes nothing.
That's both conceptually flawed and empirically false. Science surely has aspects of "hypothesizing and investigating", bit that's certainly not all of it. There are assumptions, postulations of unobservables to explain data and abstract theoretical speculations far in extent of what can be found at that time (think the Big Bang singularity).
Quote:And what do you mean philosophy stops without checking? Have you ever read Ethical philosophy or epistemology, or any bit of philosophical literature? That's complete baloney, unless you count logical deductions and theory-building (also a part of science, I should add) "stopping before checking".No I haven't. Are philosophical theories made with the intention of experimentation?