RE: The simple truth
February 13, 2014 at 9:43 pm
(This post was last modified: February 13, 2014 at 10:15 pm by The Good News.)
(February 11, 2014 at 10:16 pm)whateverist Wrote: Another nutter for sure. And shy. Didn't read it for the obvious reasons: shot through with scriptures, long winded and arrogant.
I'm sorry you feel my gospel message is arrogant. Though I haven't been the one on this thread who is mocking others and calling them names.
(February 13, 2014 at 1:27 am)Esquilax Wrote:(February 11, 2014 at 5:29 pm)The Good News Wrote: The question is more to do with what is sustaining all things. Not just the heart. Since we know that it is impossible that nothing could be sustaining anything.
I always find these amusing, given that this same person will happily tell us about his god, who is uncreated and can exist in the nothingness before he created the universe- literally is sustained by nothing- without a hint of irony.
Well seeing as God is eternal and outside the realm of this universe it's not that strange. Or do you want to make the claim that the universe is eternal and self sustaining? Even though everything is dying around you? Including yourself.
(February 13, 2014 at 5:22 am)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:(February 11, 2014 at 4:51 pm)The Good News Wrote: I can honestly say that I do not reject science. I believe science. I believe that within the universe things happen for particular reasons. I just don't believe that everything that claims to be science, is science.
Then you'd be right, but be careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water.
Perhaps you could define for us as laypersons, what does not constitute science.
(February 11, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Alex K Wrote: Odds are you know someone who has a pacemaker... For them I'd answer - yes indeed.
It's not magic just because the word "heart" is in it you know...
What?
Is so!
Well, for example, evolutionists sometimes make the claim that evolution has been proved beyond any doubt. I'm talking about the sort of evolution where rocks become humans. So I don't consider that kind of evolution to be scientific fact. Also when someone makes the claim that there definitely is no God, and then gives "scientific proof" of this. Yet there is no science that can prove the non existence of God. As He exists apart from science; He is supernatural:
"As you do not know what is the way of the wind,
Or how the bones grow in the womb of her who is with child,
So you do not know the works of God who makes everything." (Ecc 11:5)
(February 11, 2014 at 5:41 pm)max-greece Wrote: TGN,
I am sure that in your delusions you think that eventually you'll get to God or Jesus as the driver for life.
Sadly you are 100% wrong. We know from your gospel that Jesus didn't have a clue about basic biology. The alimentary canal was completely beyond him - he showed no concept of the function of eating and he thought that the heart is where thoughts and morality came from. In short - he was a moron.
Here's a passage from Mark 7 - read it. Tell what it says about Jesus' knowledge of how biology works - note the complete lack of mention of the brain - anywhere in his diatribe:
14 Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15 Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles them.” [16] [f]
17 After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
20 He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”
I don't have to get to God. He is already with me.