(February 14, 2014 at 1:04 am)Esquilax Wrote:(February 14, 2014 at 12:50 am)The Good News Wrote: Well I can't stop you from being suspicious.
I'd be a bad mod if I wasn't suspicious of that.
Quote:No, God hates lies and so do I. Tell me exactly what it is I lied about and I will apologise? I also apologise for my ignorance of this matter.
Evolution is not, has not, and never will be, ever, "people coming from rocks." This is a field of science that has existed for over a century, so I find it hard to believe that you've never been exposed to some real information about it, but more importantly, what does it say about you if you hadn't? What kind of honesty could you have, if you decided to disagree with a thing without bothering to do any research about it first?
I have to ask, how seriously are you taking this? How interested in the truth are you? Because the way you've conducted yourself on this subject thus far is, frankly, embarrassing.
I'm going to leave this here. It's an index to claims made by creationists and other religious people. On the off chance that you're actually here for an honest discussion about your beliefs, it'd be really nice if you could look for any claims you want to make on that list first, and read what actual science has to say about them first. The biology and paleontology sections should have everything you need to know; you might find that some of the things you believe to be true are actually dead wrong.
I'm not saying to discard everything you believe. What I am saying is that, if your claims have been addressed, then making them to us probably won't do much for your credibility. Creationists have an unfortunate habit of keeping outright lies in their arguments well beyond science finding the actual truth, so you'll probably need something extra.
Quote:What is the flat assertion, without justification, that I made? That everyone and everything is dying?
That god is eternal and outside space and time. Without even verifying that god exists, you're going to have a hard time justifying that claim. You're in an atheist forum; we aren't automatically going to credit you with the existence of the deity that we, by definition, don't believe in.
In that case I do apologise. Not for lying but because I was't clear enough. I did not mean that evolutionists believe humans literally formed out of rocks, I meant the type of evolution where over a large period of time an inanimate object would then change into a living being.
I don't need to justify any of my claims that are biblically true. The Bible is God's word sent for man to obey. No amount of saying "prove it" is going to change that fact. You do not know that the Bible is not God's word. I know that it is His word.