(February 20, 2014 at 5:19 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:(February 14, 2014 at 2:19 am)The Good News Wrote: Thank you for the correction. Though it could have been avoided if you had simply pointed it out in the last post as I requested. I have to say I do believe in abiogenesis. I believe God literally made man out of the dust of the ground. I also believe the Lord Jesus Christ rose from the dead, giving life to His dead body.
I know it isn't scientific abiogenesis, but I can work with a Christian who credits God with, say, creating the first cell and accepting the evidence for evolution thereafter. Frankly I've always been a little mystified that more Christians don't interpret 'raising Adam from the dust' as an understandable metaphor for ancient people about evolving humans from microbes.
(February 14, 2014 at 2:19 am)The Good News Wrote: Also I'd like to ask, at what point have I berated anyone? To be honest it seems it has been others who have been berating me. Though if you show where it is you feel I have berated anyone I will apologise to that person.
I don't know that what you were doing up to this post can reasonably be described as 'berating', but I respect your willingness to address it.
(February 14, 2014 at 4:23 pm)The Good News Wrote: I wasn't playing anything. I will try to explain what I meant:
If I was to say to you that it is true that I am a human being that is typing on a computer, and you said "no, I don't believe it, you do not exist." Then I sent you a picture of myself but you still denied my existence, would I expect you to believe that I exist because I sent you that picture? No, I would expect you to believe I exist because I exist. If you don't believe I exist it is your own folly.
This comparison is a good example of folly. We know people use computers. We reasonably expect that no nonhuman using a computer can successfully pass as human (yet). Therefore, your existence is a trivial claim that we can take your word for. You claim that you are in contact with the supernatural creator and sustainer of the universe is not like claiming YOU exist, at all. If someone tells you they saw an elephant living at the zoo, it's reasonable to take their word for it. If someone tells you they have elephants living in their walls, it's reasonable to conclude they're delusional. The method we use to evaluate these claims is one you're asking us not to use in the case of this particular claim of yours. You need to justify why we should turn off our bullshit filters just for you.
(February 18, 2014 at 9:42 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Why do most atheist resort to insults instead of respectful discussion?
You don't know most atheists, so that's a strawman, and a strawman is a lie.
Christian discussion forums are notorious for how fast they ban atheists. Hearing you out and not making 'saying anything against atheism' a bannable offense is more courtesy than we get when the shoe is on our foot.
Ok, rather, the atheist I've encountered, though that may be a small sample
