(March 20, 2014 at 10:36 pm)tor Wrote:(March 20, 2014 at 10:31 pm)Hezekiah Wrote: I don't "handle" it, but rather am "handling" it. And any Christian who can say they have all the answers is self-delusional, because they would be implying that they are God. And that directly contradicts what they preach. I'm working through my personal beliefs (Christian or not) and questions every single day. And its a hellish struggle.
So far I can prove to myself one thing for a fact. One thing I know to be true no matter what anyone says, and that's I exist. I know I exist. I am. I just AM.
Secondly, when it all comes down to it, excluding all those problems first, I personally find peace in something, I don't know what, but something greater than myself. It satisfies my desire, and belief to admit to myself that there is something that I don't know about.
And finally, I personally decided that I'd rather believe in God, die, and nothing happen, than not believe God exist, die, and be proven wrong.
I guess that's the best way to desribe how I still hold on to these ideas.
So you have 2 reasons so far.
1) Good feels.
2) Fear of punishment.
Both reasons suck in my opinion.
The pascals wager is addressed here
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager
http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?t...%27s_Wager
As for good feels you get em out of someone you fear in the same time. That's some sadomasochistic shit you got there.
Besides sounds like hellish struggles is a heavy price for good feels.
Oh trust me, I go to a Christian College. I definitely know about the Pascal Wager, which may make sense to some but I honestly skimmed over that in my required reading. Not very interesting or practical stuff.
And you're right good feels is way you can put it. It's a bad reason for anyone else. Fear of punishment, right again. I admit to that. Normally I could care less about punishment, but this is my destiny I'm playing around with, and I'd rather not play cocky. Maybe you can understand where I'm coming from.
And to me, a hellish struggle seems like a fair price to pay in pursuit of truth of any kind.
(Again, this is just my personal beliefs. I tend to say that a lot, but I just don't want to be mistaken for a bible-belting Christian)
