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My Creationist friend
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RE: My Creationist friend
Oh jeez, where to start? First off, if he believes the earth is less than 10,000 years old, then he believes that the earth is approximately 6000 years old, give or take. I think that the genealogy has the week of creation occur at 4,400 BC, or something like that. So you can tell him that the entire universe was created, as sam harris puts it, about a thousand years after the sumerians invented glue. Sam has these great lines in his books that really bring out the absurdity of religious beliefs.

I don't know how to address this topic without hurting or offending, because for the believer it's one of the most personal topics out there. Fortunately i'm not worried about offending, and in cases like this I have zero qualms about proclaiming the creationist sheltered and ignorant of even the most basic grade-school level earth sciences. Sometimes the quickest way to stop believing in Santa is to have all the other kids laugh at you.

But here's one you can try that may perhaps have an effect: Pope John Paul II has publicly declared and accepted Evolution as fact. But if evolution is a fact, then man is descended from a common ancestor some 3.5-4 billion years ago.
Ask your friend why or how the pope (god's liaison on earth) is wrong.
Creatonists won't listen to you, because you're not an authority in their eyes. But the Pope is a different matter. This might give your friend something to think about.
The cosmos is also within us. We're made of star stuff. We are a way for the cosmos to know itself - Carl Sagan
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My Creationist friend - by Janey - April 18, 2010 at 11:31 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by TheMultiverseTheory - April 18, 2010 at 11:50 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by Minimalist - April 19, 2010 at 12:04 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Janey - April 19, 2010 at 12:51 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by KichigaiNeko - April 19, 2010 at 3:57 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by D.S.M. - April 19, 2010 at 5:22 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Janey - April 19, 2010 at 5:31 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by D.S.M. - April 19, 2010 at 5:39 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Thor - April 19, 2010 at 10:24 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Janey - April 19, 2010 at 5:57 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by Thor - April 20, 2010 at 10:49 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by tavarish - April 19, 2010 at 10:30 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by lukec - April 19, 2010 at 6:16 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by Janey - April 19, 2010 at 6:28 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by Minimalist - April 19, 2010 at 7:29 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by The_Flying_Skeptic - April 20, 2010 at 1:09 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Janey - April 20, 2010 at 1:55 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Thor - April 20, 2010 at 11:12 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by EggSpurt - April 20, 2010 at 12:45 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Minimalist - April 20, 2010 at 1:17 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by The_Flying_Skeptic - April 20, 2010 at 1:25 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Loki_999 - April 20, 2010 at 1:55 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Minimalist - April 20, 2010 at 2:40 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Janey - April 20, 2010 at 5:29 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Loki_999 - April 20, 2010 at 5:53 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Zen Badger - April 27, 2010 at 6:12 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by KichigaiNeko - May 4, 2010 at 8:43 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Loki_999 - April 20, 2010 at 4:15 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by leo-rcc - April 20, 2010 at 5:36 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by tavarish - April 20, 2010 at 11:08 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Thor - April 20, 2010 at 11:38 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by downbeatplumb - May 4, 2010 at 12:45 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by Thor - May 6, 2010 at 11:18 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by KichigaiNeko - May 7, 2010 at 6:02 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Paul the Human - April 20, 2010 at 11:16 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by TheMultiverseTheory - April 20, 2010 at 11:18 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Minimalist - April 20, 2010 at 11:19 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by tavarish - April 20, 2010 at 11:24 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by EggSpurt - April 20, 2010 at 3:30 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by Thor - April 20, 2010 at 4:03 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by Rhizomorph13 - April 20, 2010 at 4:18 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by Thor - April 20, 2010 at 4:44 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by leo-rcc - April 20, 2010 at 4:56 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by leo-rcc - April 20, 2010 at 4:38 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by Janey - April 20, 2010 at 9:22 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by EggSpurt - April 21, 2010 at 12:50 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Minimalist - April 20, 2010 at 9:35 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by TheMultiverseTheory - April 27, 2010 at 3:30 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by padraic - April 27, 2010 at 6:41 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Minimalist - May 3, 2010 at 6:36 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by tavarish - May 4, 2010 at 11:38 am
RE: My Creationist friend - by Minimalist - May 4, 2010 at 12:02 pm
RE: My Creationist friend - by tavarish - May 6, 2010 at 1:29 pm

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