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May 6, 2014 at 10:01 am (This post was last modified: May 6, 2014 at 10:01 am by Chas.)
(May 6, 2014 at 7:22 am)ManMachine Wrote:
(May 6, 2014 at 6:11 am)Chas Wrote: Not one single bombshell. Is your thinking so shallow that you perceive any of those as more than mildly interesting?
I guess you don't know that Darwin wrote more than one book, for instance The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex.
Another one misses the point, I suggest you read through my replies.
However...
I do know The Descent of Man etc.', and I've read it.
To be fair, the Descent of Man is only an essay, the bigger part of the book is given over to Selection in Relation to Sex. To quote Darwin from The Descent of Man:
"The main conclusion arrived at in this work, and now held by many naturalists who are well competent to form a sound judgment, is that man is descended from some less highly organized form."
Which is so general it might be used to infer Darwin said Humans and sea cucumbers share a common ancestor. I'm not suggesting that Darwin wasn't part of the bigger debate, he was, but the specific connection between apes and humans was primarily the work of Huxley and Owen. Darwin used animals (including dogs and apes) and what he termed 'savages' to draw analogies with 'civilized humans', this was his primary rhetorical strategy which has as much to say about his Victorian values as anything.
If you have a comment to make on the broader debate of Darwin's intent then we can start another thread, but I really can't be bothered with people who attempt to present an argument about a book they have no understanding of and probably haven't even read.
MM
The point is that you listed no bombshells and are just trying to stir up shit.
Oh, I have read it, so fuck you and your bullshit.
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