Marriage discrimination struck down in Arkansas.

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Negative Steel,

The claim is homosexual marriages are equivalent to heterosexual marriages. There is no natural/intrinsic reason this needs to be the case so it likely isn't(unless there is a God who designed it so). The burden is upon you to come up with reasons why we should pretend it is equivalent.

Don't get me wrong, there are lots of good reasons to act as if the two kinds of union are equivalent. However the fact they are not equivalent is also reason enough not to give them the same status. Let the people decide what they want to do and not some judge who makes rulings based on flawed thinking.

The claim being made was that there was no rational reason for excluding homosexuals from the advantages of marriages. You countered that by claiming that the rational reason was to incentivize the asset to society for hetero marriages.

You are now shifting the goalposts by stating that because they are not equivalent in every way, one should be excluded.

My argument is that (for argument's sake) even if one union (hetero marriage) was significantly more advantageous to society, you now have to show that incentivizing the other union (homosexual marriage) provides a loss in quality or quantity of the former.

And no, people should never be able to vote on someone else's rights.

The Founders had great respect for the will of the majority, but also understood that, as James Madison wrote in Federalist No. 10, “the great danger in republics is that the majority will not respect the rights of minority.” President Thomas Jefferson proclaimed in his first inaugural address, “All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will, to be rightful, must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal laws must protect, and to violate which would be oppression.”