RE: Marriage discrimination struck down in Arkansas.
May 10, 2014 at 9:32 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2014 at 9:51 pm by Ryantology.)
(May 10, 2014 at 8:07 pm)Heywood Wrote: This is the first strong point I have seen you make in a very long time Ryantology. But the fact is, it doesn't matter what description the Constitutions gives these rights, they were enacted by a vote. People voted on which rights are "inalienable". Another constitution can come along and say a completely different set of rights are "inalienable". In principle we could desolve the Constitution just like we did the Articles of Confederation.
Yeah, in principle, that can happen. In practice, we can vote to deny equal rights to others. It happened even when the Constitution was drafted.
Does that justify allowing popular vote to deny equal rights to certain groups of people? You seem to be arguing that it does. I wonder if you would sing the same tune if we one day decided that Christians don't have the right to marry. After all, the freedom to worship is no less subject to popular vote than anything else.
Quote:The Constitution, to my recollection, doesn't say anything about marriage. I don't believe marriage is an unalienable right under the Constitution.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
![[Image: 440px-EqualJusticeUnderLaw.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=upload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F5%2F5a%2FEqualJusticeUnderLaw.jpg%2F440px-EqualJusticeUnderLaw.jpg)
That's the Supreme Court building, reminding everybody about it.
If marriage is a legal right for some consenting adults, it must be a right for all consenting adults. Any law disregarding this is, by definition, unconstitutional. This is why interracial marriage is legal today, and why one day, polygamy will, as well.
Please note that I bolded 'consenting adults' so you could spare everybody the potential stupidity of asking when kids and dogs will have the right to marry. Do us all a favor and refrain from that.