RE: A thought never had
May 16, 2014 at 7:31 am
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2014 at 7:39 am by MJ the Skeptical.)
(May 15, 2014 at 4:23 pm)BlackSwordsman Wrote: So I never thought about it much, growing up in a christian home, never saw it, never noticed it. Guess I should'a been looking harder.
Remember the story of Lucifer, perhaps we got it wrong. Perhaps he wasn't evil. Perhaps he'd simply had enough of god being a bully, a jerk, an murder. Perhaps since before he became 'satan' there was no hell.
Maybe we got it wrong, maybe after Lucifer saw the mind games god was playing with adam (maybe Lucifer knew gods plan, perhaps god bragged about what was to happen)
Perhaps the story was changed to make him appear to be the bad guy (wouldn't be the first time someone spun an innocent person out to be evil)
Perhaps when he stood up to god, god being a bullying jerk fucked over Lucifer. Perhaps Lucifer was the good guy this entire time, and was punished for standing up . . .
After all god has been the one doing all the killing, satan is gods scapegoat, his fall man.
Thoughts?
If I read the Bible objectively I have to deduce that Lucifer was just behaving as he was made. In the story, God was the one who created evil, God created Lucifer to rebel against him, God created hell knowing people would fuck-up. Also if you look at deaths in the bible, it's 2,000,000 (God) to 10 (Lucifer it's hard to call Satan the bad one. I've often posed the question to theist...How do you tell who's the good one? If Lucifer is just doing as he was planned to do, is he really bad? To your point about Lucifer just rebelling against an evil god, that's actually one of the first things I thought us when I heard the Lucifer story.
(May 15, 2014 at 6:55 pm)Lek Wrote: If Adam and Eve hadn't listened to Satan, all those terrible things you mentioned wouldn't have happened. He wanted them to happen. (I know. We and the devil are all real wonderful and nice and wouldn't hurt a flea. It's all God's fault. Blah, blah, blah.......).
If Gawd didn't make Satan specifically to fuck with his supposedly beloved creations, is that not a better parenting standard? To not fuck with your kids who don't even have knowledge of good and evil which is inside the fruit. It's really quite asinine.
If the hypothetical idea of an afterlife means more to you than the objectively true reality we all share, then you deserve no respect.
