RE: What are some good checkmate arguments against religion?
May 24, 2014 at 7:43 am
(This post was last modified: May 24, 2014 at 8:04 am by paulpablo.)
(May 23, 2014 at 4:23 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I'm only familiar with Epicurus saying:
Quote:“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
Are there any more sayings like this? Do you have any of your own arguments?
Thanks in advantage.
I never understood this argument against god because you can see the response coming from a mile away, god leaves us to our own devices to judge who is good among us and it doesn't matter anyway because life is only temporary and god brings the people who suffered in life to heaven if they didn't die in sin.
I don't argue with Christians anyway it seems pointless to me, barely anyone in my country lives by the strict rules of Christianity there isn't even much of a Christian culture left. The bible itself is simply a ridiculous old book with nothing to offer. I don't know why anyone on this forum even bothers really.
Muslims I think are more difficult to argue with. My main arguments against them are...
1) God tells an angel to tell a man who can't write to tell some other people some words, in one language that I don't understand 1400 years ago. Why is this his best attempt at communication with me?
2) The contradictions in the quran.
3) God is merciful and forgiving yet if you don't believe in the verses of the quran and are of a good mental state and of the age of puberty he will actually drive this person into flames in the afterlife, roast his flesh all the way through, then create new flesh for him specifically for the reason so he can feel the pain of burning again, then repeat this process every time the flesh is burned through.
This means a boy who turned 14, read the verses of the quran didn't believe them, died of cancer when he was 15 will now have his flesh roasted until black and charred then replaced by more flesh so god can burn it and roast it again.
4) The quran also seems to have errors, although going back to point one I'll never be sure of this because the book is in Arabic.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
Impersonation is treason.
