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Intelligent Design: Did you design yourself?

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RE: Intelligent Design: Did you design yourself?

May 28, 2014 at 9:15 pm

(May 28, 2014 at 9:08 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Based on a sample size of exactly one laboratory-created bacterium that we not only know was deliberately designed, but we also know the identities of the designers?

The claim made was that intelligent design was merely a hypothesis. Just one example of something intelligently designed demolishes that claim.

Intelligently designed biological systems exist.....shouldn't students then be taught about intelligent design?

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