RE: Intelligent Design: Did you design yourself?
June 1, 2014 at 12:51 am
(This post was last modified: June 1, 2014 at 1:01 am by GrandizerII.)
(May 31, 2014 at 7:35 pm)Heywood Wrote:(May 31, 2014 at 6:59 pm)Irrational Wrote: If human life can be created and designed without the need for God, then there is no reason why one must or should accept God's existence as an intelligent creator/designer of human life.
This is nonsense.
Suppose God and Zod exist. Both can create human life. God creates human life. This would be reason enough to accept God's existence as an intelligent creator/designer of human life.
Zod's existence and actions(or in action) have nothing to do with Gods existence and action.
But, as I said, this violates the principle of parsimony (or what some people refer to as Occam's razor). If a relatively simple being like Zod can do it, then why invoke God? Unless you have evidence that shows that God exists and was more likely to have started human life, we don't have a [good] reason to think God did it.
(May 31, 2014 at 8:10 pm)Heywood Wrote:(May 31, 2014 at 8:04 pm)Chas Wrote: Your response has nothing to do with the statement. It is a complete non sequitur.
Negative Chas,
In my example God didn't need to create humans. Zod could have. The fact that God did create humans would be reason enough. If humans could have came to be naturally, but God created them anyways, the fact that God created them would be reason enough to acknowledge God as the creator of humans.
It all follows....you're just not that bright.
And, once again, that is why we have to keep things as simple as possible and use Occam's razor to rule all unnecessary explanations out. You don't just add/multiply entities when unwarranted by the evidence.
(May 31, 2014 at 9:20 pm)Heywood Wrote: The rules apply to everyone is the official line....the reality is different. The reality is if I responded insult for insult, I or any argumentative theists would be labeled troll and quickly banned.
Its no big deal though Stimbo. This is an atheists forum. If argumentative theists want to discuss here....we got to play by your rules....even the unwritten ones.
Same would be true if you go to a religious forum.
At least he was given at least a warning. I can't even access as a guest the Christian forum I used to post at.
What I get everytime I go there is the following:
Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!
Spam/Foul language
This ban is not set to expire.
Which, as far as I know, is either false or exaggerated. Count your blessings, that's all I can say.
