RE: Abortion and Women's Rights
June 5, 2014 at 9:15 am
(This post was last modified: June 5, 2014 at 9:19 am by John V.)
(June 5, 2014 at 9:00 am)Losty Wrote: [Since you asked though. I guess I will say this. I don't think a fetus' right to live should ever trump a woman's right to ownership and control over her own body. That being said, if a fetus is viable and there are no medical issues causing a threat to the woman's life, then that fetus has a right to live. Doesn't mean it has a right to live inside her body but it does have a right to live.]
I put brackets around so I can say, I will not debate the contents of those brackets. That is my personal opinion and it is not up for debate. I will gladly debate what is before the brackets as it is my political opinion.
Seems fair enough. I find it strange though that I've said pretty much the same thing, yet you kudo posts by DP saying that I have the burden of proof to prove my opinion (despite that being an oxymoron).
(June 5, 2014 at 8:46 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: "Same with you" is a "yes but" answer. A.k.a. "Yes, I'm guilty as charged, but you do it too".Yes, I've said all along that you can't prove opinion, and we're both gulity of it.
Quote:The difference is, as previously discussed, Losty and I are using ALL the possible criteria: Self-awareness, viability and your arbitrary DNA distinction. So actually we do have justification for our positions on 3rd trimester abortions. You do not on 1st and 2nd. So, actually, no, not same with us.Ah, so now you further hurt your position with ad hoc shifting of criteria, and try to spin that as justification.
Quote:So can we agree that on the issue of abortion, you're a sanctimonious, busy-body, bully, then?A woman wanting an abortion after 21 weeks might say the same of you.