(June 10, 2014 at 5:34 pm)naimless Wrote:(June 10, 2014 at 5:11 pm)Luckie Wrote: I'm pretty sure the title of the thread says the opposite of what you just said. I'm just trying to understand where you got 'OP wants to disown his father' from, well, any of his posts. Ascribing false motivations is classic victim blame game tactics.
nameless Wrote:OP doesn't get disowned because he is an atheist. He disowns himself from his father by not accepting him as a Mormon and bragging about atheism. He can be an atheist and still remain tactful to maintain a better relationship with his father. If he can't respect the religious views of his father then he can disown him.
His father read a post that his son posted on Facebook which is his humanity given right to say-- and the father sends a chastisimg, seethingly passive aggressive letter that has more connotations than you or I could ever possibly know.
Lets put this in perspective. *goes to Facebook, selects first family member I see
my cousin Wrote:I took my nieces to my childhood church today. They were so great. Alayena had never been to church before and she loved it. I am honored to be a part of their spiritual lives. Thankful for my family. #Ordercreatesorder #Noorderoutofchaos #Wearenoaccident
Now, according to you, he'd be in the wrong if I went and messaged him something like, 'Sorry to hear you were wasting your time at church when you could've been having family brunch with us sane people. Btw have you found a job yet, jobless MC job jobless boy? Maybe Karma hates you for being in a cult so that's why you don't have a job. Atheism saves! No one died for you!'
That would be uncalled for, and you know it
I can't see your logic on this I'm afraid.
Naimless Wrote:His father is an asshole to him.
His father invites him to do Mormon shit. His father gets ridiculed, disrespected, and shamed for inviting him to do Mormon shit. Mormonism is most definitely a highly invasive cult. His father doesn't invite him to do other shit he likes or believes in. His father is disowning him because they have no common ground now that he will not submit to the abusive nature of the cult just to be accepted by his own family.
Bold added by me. Thoughts?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
