Catholicism: "Our Teachings have never changed" claim

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http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/22/books/...d=all&_r=0

http://www.bible.ca/catholic-flip-flops.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20R...-dogma.htm

Perfect, I've seen the last two today but that first one is brilliant, thanks a bunch!

Since the apologist can just move the goal posts and redefine things on the fly, this probably doesn't count either:

With a formal statement at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences on Saturday, Vatican officials said the Pope will formally close a 13-year investigation into the Church's condemnation of Galileo in 1633. The condemnation, which forced the astronomer and physicist to recant his discoveries, led to Galileo's house arrest for eight years before his death in 1642 at the age of 77.

The dispute between the Church and Galileo has long stood as one of history's great emblems of conflict between reason and dogma, science and faith. The Vatican's formal acknowledgement of an error, moreover, is a rarity in an institution built over centuries on the belief that the Church is the final arbiter in matters of faith.

and

In 1616, the Copernican view was declared heretical because it refuted a strict biblical interpreation of the Creation that "God fixed the Earth upon its foundation, not to be moved forever." But Galileo obtained the permission of Pope Urban VIII, a Barberini and a friend, to continue research into both the Ptolemaic and the Copernican views of the world, provided that his findings drew no definitive conclusions and acknowledged divine omnipotence.

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/31/world/...moves.html

Ah, I've tried Galilleo...This ones nothing short of hilarious. Apparently the Church is "justified" in their treatment of him because at the time he had no proof and taught it as if it were a fact...
Yeaaaaah.... Hello pot, meet kettle

Thanks for all the responses folks!

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So yeah, I was hoping to avoid the cracker jokes and try logic (I mean this is supposed to be a university) but...no luck.

That's the point. What makes you think logic is persuasive with somebody that believes in transubstantiation?

...Fair point!

Funny part is that when I've actually sat collecting info on Catholicism for research for coursework (just in a pew at the back asking questions as they enter and leave) something like 60% of them either didn't know what transubstantiation was and I had to tell them or "they didn't know if they believed it".

I kid you not.