(June 17, 2014 at 5:17 pm)Arthur123 Wrote: Esquilax, autonomy is never and should never trump the ethical consequences of allowing murder. Autonomy is good up until the point someone chooses to enact something immoral. Our justice system and all morality indeed, rests on this principle. The fact that it is not applied in the act of abortion I believe, is a gross injustice and ignorance on the topic. If a fetus is human than eliminating it is morally wrong and should not be allowed. The simple fact that it is using a women's body is a secondary fact.
Secondly, I am moving from the starting point of objective morality due to the fact that if denied, this discussion has no merit. Autonomy, life, ect. have no value at all and murder would be morally acceptable. This is not relevant to the discussion my friend.
Esquilax, aborting a human being infringes on their body as well. Albeit, in the most final and morally unacceptable way.
It's not murder, and using such a provocatively emotional term is something the forced birthers just love to do.
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"