Abortion is morally wrong

[Jenny A]

And I'm so goddamn tired of hearing these arguments too, which, I'm sorry, are no different from "well, the little slut should have kept her legs together if she didn't want to get pregnant!" except that the phrasing is nicer. We don't take this attitude with any other situation, and yet now I'm suddenly supposed to accept this "there are never any mistakes, and you have no right to mitigate the consequences on yourself now," attitude when it comes to abortion?

We don't leave drunk drivers dying on the side of the road near their crashed cars, we don't just not accept police reports from mugging victims if they were flashing their cash around dark alleys, we don't refuse to treat self inflicted wounds, we don't go with this "now you must face the worst case scenario for your actions no matter what!" nonsense anywhere else, so why does the argument suddenly become valid with abortion?

Nonsense. There are people, lots of them, who think pregnancy is the righteous punishment for sex. But such people define the fetus as human from the moment of conception. That they make exceptions in the case of rape belies those who consider pregnancy a punishment for premarital sex. Otherwise why would rape matter in equation at all. But calling all those who do not condone late abortions as puritans out to punish promescuity is just as inflammatory as saying, oooo! see the pictures it looks like a baby, it's murder.

So back to the analogy wars . . . A woman in her first couple trimesters who doesn't want a baby is a little like the drunk driver who hurts himself or the depressed person who cuts himself. And I see no problem with her choosing to end the pregnancy. There's only one person involved and that's the pregnant woman.

But should she continue the pregnancy until it's late term, she has allowed the situation to involve two people, herself and a baby. I've heard it argued that allowing a baby to continue unwanted in her mother gives it more rights than when give born people. That's true. We don't give born people the right to life off someone elses biological system. But we also give more rights to born babies and children than, than we do to grown-ups. We give them the right to their parent's care and in lieu of their parents, the state's care. Child abuse and neglect are crimes. Adult neglect is not a crime. We should give the unborn human the use of a uterus for the same reasons we should feed, house, and educate children.

Six or seven months is plenty of time to treat pregnancy with abortion before there's another human life involved.

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I defined human being in the OP and no, Boru, I do not believe that at all. In fertilization the genetic information from both the man and woman meet and the formation of a new, living human being is formed. Sperm and oocytes do not meet this requirement but a unicellular zygote that genetically directs its own development does.
Cthulhu, I have been kind and charitable in my responses what have I done to deserve such snark? Or perhaps I have read you all wrong in that case....

I don't think you have been personally attacked. As a pro-late-term life, pro-early-choice, atheist, I'm in the minority. Only about 20 % of atheists are pro-choice. People disagree with me. They do so vehemently. But I don't feel personally attacked. And you shouldn't either. Grow up and respond to the arguments and not to feeling hurt because not everyone agrees.