(June 24, 2014 at 8:50 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(June 24, 2014 at 8:36 am)pocaracas Wrote: You're changing the premises of the dilemma, here... tss tss tss
How?
(June 24, 2014 at 8:37 am)Brian37 Wrote: Sides is not the issue. Bad use of logic is.
If one is going to call abortion murder, then be logically consistent about it. A girl/women to get one has to have a pre meditated thought to even want one. Then she has to act on that thought and seek out a doctor. The doctor is not the only person involved in that act.
When two guys rob someone for their wallet, one guy might come up with the idea, they both go along with it, one ends up murdering the victim. Most of the time in law, even if one does not have the intent of murder, BOTH will be charged with murder.
Now again, be logically consistent and answer me this right now. WHAT SHOULD BE THE PUNISHMENT FOR THE GIRL/WOMAN?
I think you're confusing the issue.
So you're saying that the doctor is equally guilty? Fine.
What should the punishment be for the girl be? Well I don't personally think either should be punished. But if the doctor does something illegal prompted by the girl then he's as guilty as she is.
NO FRODO, you are calling abortion murder, not me. If you call it murder that would mean the woman should be charged with murder. If you are not willing to do that then you are being logically inconsistent.
What you do not realize is in reality you really don't care about the baby itself, because if you really do care and are willing to call abortion murder than to stand up for that view and morality, the right thing for you to do is to treat her as a murderer.
Serioulsy, that would be no different than if I called you on the phone, told you to murder someone else, and you did it. It took me to call you, just like it takes a pregnant women to seek out a doctor.
SO call it murder if you wish(I don't call it murder). But put your money where you mouth is and punish the girl/woman too. Otherwise you are blowing smoke up my ass.
