RE: Abortion is morally wrong
June 24, 2014 at 10:32 am
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2014 at 10:39 am by pocaracas.)
(June 24, 2014 at 9:52 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(June 24, 2014 at 9:10 am)pocaracas Wrote: The trolley problem has two sets of people. At least one of them must die. Your choice is who dies. It's not kill or not to kill, like you suggested in your example where you wanted me to be the victim!
I see what you're getting at. But the mother isn't usually dying, and I think Arthur has covered the usual get out clauses/ acceptable exceptions.
In abortion the death of unborn child isn't inevitable, like with the trolley. So from your example, we can't conclude that killing one against killing many is moral at all. That choice was either null, no moral accountability or one choice less onerous than the other. If you had twins and could save one, would it be immoral to take one life? I don't think so.
I see... we're back on abortion, ok.
On one side, fetus dies and life for the woman goes on, on the other side... many things can happen, life for the woman does not go on, it changes, it may affect other people around her.... and the future child as well.
Unplanned, unprepared for, undesired pregnancies tend to result in neglected, abused, unloved children.
Is it moral to bring forth people into such conditions?
Would it not be better for the woman to abort and wait until she is ready to become a mother, thus providing all her love and caring to that welcomed child?
I know, it would be a different child, not the same genetic makeup... but is that relevant?
(June 24, 2014 at 9:43 am)Rhythm Wrote: No, why would it be? Sex without contraception if you aren't planning to have a kid -is- given a negative value judgement. Obviously we don;t have to, but I think it's prudent move, don't you?
Indeed it is prudent to have contraception if you're not planning on having kids... But not everyone has contraception available... except for abstinence, which we'll assume to be off the table.
Not everyone is aware of the correct usage of said contraceptives...
Some people think they are protected when they aren't...
Some people have sex while intoxicated (drunk or otherwise), so contraception doesn't even factor in (for some contraceptives)...
Shit happens, bad luck is real... should we give a negative value judgement to these people? Some of them... some not...
Reality is complex and things must be dealt on a case by case basis.
