(June 29, 2014 at 6:00 am)Irrational Wrote: They are saying the Codex Sinaiticus has a complete copy of the New Testament. Have you seen otherwise from that link you posted? Genesis is not part of the New Testament.
It includes both the Old and New Testaments.
Codex Sinaticus Content
(June 29, 2014 at 4:36 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: There were manuscripts but there was no Bible. Does several fragments constitute a complete Bible? Besides, the Bible version that Wycliffe and his buddies wrote was vastly different than what had been floating around.
Wycliffe's Bible Versions
Quote:There are two distinct versions of Wycliffe's Bible that have been written. The earlier was translated during the life of Wycliffe, while the later version is regarded as the work of John Purvey. Since the printing press was not invented yet, there exist only a very few copies of Wycliffe's earlier Bible. The earlier Bible is a rigid and literal translation of the Latin Vulgate Bible, and Wycliffe's view of theology is closer to realism than to the spiritual. This version was translated word for word, which often led to confusion or meaninglessness
Surviving copies of the Wycliffite Bible fall into two broad textual families, an "early" version and a later version. Both versions are flawed by a slavish regard to the word order and syntax of the Latin originals; the later versions give some indication of being revised in the direction of idiomatic English.
(June 29, 2014 at 4:36 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: We don't use the BS written in the Bronze Age. We use the BS that the English wrote. Therefore Wycliffe and his buddies wrote the Bible.
Nobody uses Wycliffe's Bible today although it's available to read as a curiosity.
King James Version
Quote:The King James Version (KJV), commonly known as the Authorized Version (AV) or King James Bible (KJB), is an English translation of the Christian Bible for the Church of England begun in 1604 and completed in 1611.
In common with most other translations of the period, the New Testament was translated from Greek, the Old Testament was translated from Hebrew and Aramaic text, while the Apocrypha were translated from the Greek and Latin.
Even though it was a later translation by English people, it wasn't derived from Wycliffe's translation. Meanwhile, Coptic Christians have never bothered with English translations of the Bible.
Coptic Versions Of The Bible
Quote:There have been many Coptic versions of the Bible, including some of the earliest translations into any language. Several different versions were made in the ancient world, with different editions of the Old and New Testament in all four of the major dialects of Coptic: Bohairic (northern), Fayyumic, Sahidic (southern), Akhmimic, and Mesokemic. Biblical books were translated from the Alexandrian Greek version.
Wycliffe's Bible does have an appeal all of it's own. I'll quote the bit from the Gospel of Matheu which has the name Emanuel in it.
Matheu Chapter 1
Quote:18 But the generacioun of Crist was thus. Whanne Marie, the modir of Jhesu, was spousid to Joseph, bifore thei camen togidere, she was foundun hauynge of the Hooli Goost in the wombe.
19 And Joseph, hir hosebonde, for he was riytful, and wolde not puplische hir, he wolde priueli haue left hir.
20 But while he thouyte thes thingis, lo! the aungel of the Lord apperide `in sleep to hym, and seide, Joseph, the sone of Dauid, nyle thou drede to take Marie, thi wijf; for that thing that is borun in hir is of the Hooli Goost.
21 And she shal bere a sone, and thou shalt clepe his name Jhesus; for he schal make his puple saaf fro her synnes.
22 For al this thing was don, that it schulde be fulfillid, that was seid of the Lord bi a prophete, seiynge, Lo!
23 a virgyn shal haue in wombe, and she schal bere a sone, and thei schulen clepe his name Emanuel, that is to seie, God with vs.
24 And Joseph roos fro sleepe, and dide as the aungel of the Lord comaundide hym, and took Marie, his wijf;
25 and he knew her not, til she hadde borun her firste bigete sone, and clepide his name Jhesus.
Where are the snake and mushroom smilies?