(June 29, 2014 at 10:10 pm)Ksa Wrote:(June 29, 2014 at 4:13 pm)zanOTK Wrote: Is that directed at me? If so, I assure you I didn't make up the Baha'i Faith. It's quite real, and was founded in the 1800s (I don't look THAT old, do I?).
As for whether or not its true: obviously, if somebody follows a religion, they probably believe it is true.
Thought somebody might enjoy this article:
How the Baha'i Faith became South Carolina's second-largest religion
If you believe that La Ilaha Ilallah Mohammad Rasoul Allah, that there is no God but Allah and that prophet Muhammad is the last and final messenger, I'm not sure what's not clear to you about the word final? They even added 2 words, "last" and "final" to make sure you won't get it wrong.
Final means Muhammad was the last one. Final does not mean there's others after him also. If you believe others came after him, you don't truly believe that Muhammad was a messenger. So you're like Jehovah witness, claiming Jesus cried on the cross "jehova, Jehova, lamassa bahtani" despite what the scriptures say he said. So why would I listen to you? You can just say fuck-all.
Hmm. I see where you might have an issue. See, the Arabic you posted doesn't say "last" or "final." It just says "There is no god but God, and Muhammad a Messenger of God." And of course, you may be confusing the fact that some Muslims have a longer Shahada. The one you quoted was the Sunni Shahada, while Shias add "wa aliyun waliyyullah", "and Ali is the friend of God." Neither of these, however, says "last", or "final."
So, either you were misinformed, or you are intentionally twisting facts to support your own position. Which makes little sense, in my eyes, since I was not challenging you in the first place. I created this thread to in order to continue a conversation with Pickup_shonuff, not to attempt to convince anybody of my beliefs. Your actions, attacking an individual who has made no attempt to alter your opinion, show a lack of maturity. Go home. Come back when you're able to behave like an adult.
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