(July 21, 2014 at 12:16 pm)Esquilax Wrote: In his ongoing crusade to spin the largest and most nonsensical fan-canon for the bible possible, Ken Ham recently intimated that space exploration is a waste of time and resources, as all alien species there might be are automatically going to hell. Moreover, it's just a conspiracy perpetrated by "secularists" who want to disprove god by finding aliens!![]()
Quote:Of course, secularists are desperate to find life in outer space, as they believe that would provide evidence that life can evolve in different locations and given the supposed right conditions! The search for extraterrestrial life is really driven by man’s rebellion against God in a desperate attempt to supposedly prove evolution!
Apart from being one of the dumbest things ever written by a human, Ken Ham's intensely ridiculous idea here is also dead wrong. In no way does the bible assert that the entire universe was affected by original sin; you can go and read Genesis 3 quite easily to see that, but also why would it? The biblical authors had no concept of other planets that could bear life, and in fact their cosmology had the sky as a firmament filled with water. In fact, the whole point of the doctrine of original sin is that it's passed down through the descendants. It's something inherited from a previous sinner; aliens wouldn't have that by definition.
There are other interesting consequences of this idea that Ken clearly hasn't thought through; having not eaten of the tree any intelligent life out there would have no concept of good or evil, and so are being punished with hell for sins that they not only did not have any chance of committing or preventing, but also have no conception of them as evil. The god being proposed here is terrifyingly evil on an indiscriminate scale that even we atheists don't automatically credit him with. This is a god who focuses his attentions on earth... but punishes the far reaches of space just as an afterthought.
Free will goes out the window as an excuse, as now we've got potentially intelligent aliens with their own free wills and no choice at all as to where they go, though I've no doubt Ken Ham- who is apparently now a racist even to potential non-terrestrial intelligences- would have no trouble simply accepting that the free will theology only applies to humans for some reason, and who cares about aliens?
I know all this is hypothetical, but so's the god question to begin with, and what all this goes to show is the complete lack of thought with which fundie christian dickheads like Ham heft about their imagined ideas of what god thinks. It's to the point where he's contradicting even other parts of his own personal interpretation, but a consistent worldview apparently isn't as important as unthinking praise for god. And now he's promulgating a view that would actively retard scientific progress in one of potentially the most important fields of study we have, because of his fucking storybook.
This kind of shit demonstrates exactly how dangerous unrestrained theology is.
Don't worry, we won't find any. Earth like planets are far too rare, and even if you have one evolution does not veer towards intelligence but rather away from it as brains are energy expensive. Yes I'm aware of the kepler finds but we have no way of knowing if those worlds have the liquid core needed for life to evolve.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.


