RE: Why "mysterious ways" don't matter.
July 23, 2014 at 9:23 am
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2014 at 9:42 am by SteveII.)
Disregarding religious-related rules (which since they have an identifiable source, they would not qualify as any kind of "built in" or "discoverable" moral value), I am still confused as to the source.
If there is as Esquilax said, an objective framework (reality) in which we can discover moral values, then murder, slavery, abuse, etc. was always wrong from the beginning.
It seems that Jenny and Rasetsu believes that we chose a set of values. This, I think, by definition makes them subjective.
If then, objective moral values and duties exist, the question is what is the foundation and could evolution have produced it? If we had evolved differently with slight modifications to our brain or instinctive behavior, would these values and duties be different?
Stated a different way, if some current primate group's cognitive ability evolves enough to begin behaving in a civilization--co-existing with us, would you say that they would have a different set of moral values and duties or would ours apply? If different, why?
It is people like you that prompt me to compliment those who are civil. If everyone was like you, I would have not stayed 5 minutes.
If your are referring to the discussion on beauty, I have read the opinions that it is not objective. I still don't agree, but as Esquilax said, it is a large topic and I may come back to it.
If there is as Esquilax said, an objective framework (reality) in which we can discover moral values, then murder, slavery, abuse, etc. was always wrong from the beginning.
It seems that Jenny and Rasetsu believes that we chose a set of values. This, I think, by definition makes them subjective.
If then, objective moral values and duties exist, the question is what is the foundation and could evolution have produced it? If we had evolved differently with slight modifications to our brain or instinctive behavior, would these values and duties be different?
Stated a different way, if some current primate group's cognitive ability evolves enough to begin behaving in a civilization--co-existing with us, would you say that they would have a different set of moral values and duties or would ours apply? If different, why?
(July 23, 2014 at 9:09 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Are you going to fucking reply to what he said you patronising bitch? Drop the unnecessary compliments, they're not going to win you any friends here, not with the contents of your posts.
It is people like you that prompt me to compliment those who are civil. If everyone was like you, I would have not stayed 5 minutes.
If your are referring to the discussion on beauty, I have read the opinions that it is not objective. I still don't agree, but as Esquilax said, it is a large topic and I may come back to it.
