(August 6, 2014 at 4:46 pm)Oldm8 Wrote: I have a very old book which details the Mormons killing 122 men women and children, part of a wagon train passing through Utah at Mountain Meadows in 1857.
Who gives a shit if Smith did or did not translate anything.
Those like Smith who see visions are mentally ill, this guy was clever with it and fooled lots of weak minded people to sign up to his own warped vision of reality.
The early Mormons were not nice people. One of the skeletons in my family closet is that a great, great uncle of mine was converted by Mormon missionaries and immigrated to Utah (he was a Danish national). The Mormons told him that Mormonism was little different from Lutheranism. He learned differently in Utah. But the Mormons were strapped for labor and he had to essentially escape which he did by bribing an Indian tribe to smuggle him out.
He wasn't the nicest guy ever himself though, because he turned around and began making money smuggling arms to the Mormons to help them against the Indians that smuggled him out.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.