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Try and prove me wrong on this...
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RE: Try and prove me wrong on this...
(August 4, 2014 at 4:50 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:
(August 4, 2014 at 4:47 pm)Mozart Link Wrote: If my lack of ability to experience pleasure were permanent and there is no way I could do anything to make myself feel more pleasure in life, then they would feel devastated. Intelligence (thoughts and such) are nothing more than mere biological functions such as breathing, movement, etc. But pleasure is your emotional well-being here and is what makes your life worth living (as I argued in my opening post). So for them to feel happier knowing that I am reduced to nothing more than mere biological functions (which would, again, be intelligence and such with no pleasure) than if I were to be retarded and happy would make no sense.

Welp, you got more than just that one post to which to respond. Especially love the part about consciousness being "nothing more" than brain states and chemistry, while "pleasure" is somehow special.

Seriously man, the more you talk the more I think of
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I am now going to prove how pleasure is the most important part of the brain. Many people who are depressed or have little to no ability of experiencing pleasure are suicidal. But, for example, if you were to disable any other part of their brains instead such as their intelligence or memory, etc., they would not feel suicidal. Of course, if you were to disable any part of their brain that is necessary to live, they would die, but they wouldn't feel suicidal.

Now why is it that they would feel suicidal if they were to lose their pleasure? It would be because pleasure has such immense value that one would be lead to suicide if they didn't have it. But they wouldn't feel suicidal if they were to lose any other part of their brain because it would have virtually no value in comparison to pleasure. Very few people would have virtually no value towards pleasure and would be fine living their lives with no pleasure. Such people would be those who never had pleasure to begin with and never knew what it even felt like to have it in the first place. If they did though, they would feel suicidal. If not suicidal, then they would at least feel very depressed not having it.
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Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 4, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by ShaMan - August 4, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Tonus - August 4, 2014 at 2:06 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Crossless1 - August 4, 2014 at 2:12 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Losty - August 4, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Dystopia - August 4, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Crossless1 - August 4, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 4, 2014 at 4:38 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Crossless1 - August 4, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 4, 2014 at 6:03 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Cato - August 4, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 4, 2014 at 8:22 pm
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RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 4, 2014 at 9:09 pm
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RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 4, 2014 at 9:23 pm
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RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mudhammam - August 4, 2014 at 4:45 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Losty - August 4, 2014 at 4:32 pm
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RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Losty - August 4, 2014 at 4:40 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 4, 2014 at 4:47 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 4, 2014 at 5:03 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Losty - August 4, 2014 at 5:05 pm
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RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by ShaMan - August 4, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 7, 2014 at 5:56 pm
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RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mystical - August 4, 2014 at 6:26 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 4, 2014 at 6:32 pm
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RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mystical - August 4, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Simon Moon - August 4, 2014 at 7:32 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by ShaMan - August 4, 2014 at 8:38 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 4, 2014 at 8:50 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mystical - August 4, 2014 at 9:11 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Cyberman - August 4, 2014 at 9:28 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by ignoramus - August 4, 2014 at 9:50 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by ignoramus - August 5, 2014 at 12:13 am
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Losty - August 5, 2014 at 12:14 am
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 5, 2014 at 6:27 am
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Cato - August 5, 2014 at 8:23 am
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by ignoramus - August 5, 2014 at 8:12 am
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 5, 2014 at 8:47 am
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RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by ignoramus - August 5, 2014 at 8:57 am
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 5, 2014 at 9:11 am
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RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Crossless1 - August 5, 2014 at 11:56 am
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 5, 2014 at 3:01 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mudhammam - August 5, 2014 at 3:34 pm
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RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Mozart Link - August 5, 2014 at 10:46 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by ignoramus - August 5, 2014 at 11:45 pm
RE: Try and prove me wrong on this... - by Cyberman - August 7, 2014 at 6:00 pm

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