RE: General questions about the Christian idea of God and love
September 14, 2014 at 3:26 pm
(This post was last modified: September 14, 2014 at 3:37 pm by Drich.)
(September 14, 2014 at 1:08 pm)ShaMan Wrote: Silly
God loves sinners. That's why he cares enough to send them to eternal torture for a crime he committed.
Atheists just can't seem to grasp this wisdom
Why would God send those He loves to Hell? Appearently some 'atheists' really can't grasp the concept that God does not love everyone. There are those whom God hates. Those he sends to Hell.
(September 14, 2014 at 1:12 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Can't we see religious differences here solved an old fashioned way ??
Maybe an inquisition, or dunking in freezing brine. Slaughter a wee sheepie and examine the entrails.
Or maybe go back to a classic, burn the house to the ground, slay the male off spring, steal the livestock, rape the women, and poison the well ???
This is man at his best. Unless you can find some book chapter and verse instructing such behavior know In Your heart that you like the rest of us can and have justified this type of behavior when and if our collective 'morality' will allow it.
Just so you are not confused, if what I am saying is if you can not find a biblical command that has God telling Christians to do the things you listed, then know with all the self righteousness it took you to bring this up, God is not the cause of these acts, even if they were done in His name. The cause was what you currently rally behind, what the Germans rallied behind in Hitler's Germany, what the Chinese and the Russians rallied behind when they went on their destructive rampages that had nothing to do with God. It's man's morality.
Mans morality can be twisted to do anything his heart truly desires. God/bible is the only point of contrast between what you think right and wrong is and what actual right and wrong is. It is what re centers us once we follow men like hitler.
(September 14, 2014 at 3:04 pm)genkaus Wrote:(September 14, 2014 at 2:44 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I already did I believe genkaus. "Without condition" would be inaccurate. The love is always given, otherwise how does Jesus saving sinners such as the proustite work? A person rejects Gods love and reaps the reward, which is Gods just wrath. If the person chooses to turn around from their rebellion, God, in his infinite mercy shows them love. I hope that's clearer.
So, you accept Drich's proposition that "God hates the sin loves the sinner" is an empty platitude?
"Biblically unsupported platitude."