RE: Can Christians be humanists and moralists?
September 18, 2014 at 11:51 am
(This post was last modified: September 18, 2014 at 11:58 am by Mister Agenda.)
(September 10, 2014 at 11:42 am)fr0d0 Wrote: It's not what you want to call humanism Wolfie. But a humanist explained his position to me as that.
I also added about secular humanism, to include what you might associate with humanism.
Well, if someone who called himself a humanist explained it that way, it must be right, and any humanist who says different must be wrong. I mean that only makes sense.
The 'secular' in secular humanism is to differentiate it from religious humanism.
(September 10, 2014 at 11:48 am)fr0d0 Wrote: No true humanist I suppose
No one humanist speaks for everyone. If I quote an idiot Christian for you, will you get the point that Christian doesn't get to define Christianity?
(September 18, 2014 at 7:15 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Description of Ad Hominem
Translated from Latin to English, "Ad Hominem" means "against the man" or "against the person."
An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of "argument" has the following form:
Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on person A.
Therefore A's claim is false.
The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made).
So you understand from that, that merely insulting you not an ad hominem fallacy, it has to be coupled as a reason for rejecting your claim, right?
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.