RE: In need of a more humbleness. Why condemning the Theistic position makes no sense.
September 20, 2014 at 9:55 pm
(September 20, 2014 at 9:46 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: But the Atheist position is not that there is no God. It's that they don't believe in God. So from this stance, you would have to either claim:You forgot a third option. God is a character in a book. I can prove that to you anytime you'd like. While my position is not the position of every atheist, the claim of knowledge is not the position of every theist. Nevertheless, there are theists and atheists who are comfortable making a claim of knowledge. You invoked one side of that coin in your statements - and then tried to compare that apple to an orange in the next line. It doesn't make any sense at all to keep my mind open about whether or not a character contained in a narrative jumped out and had a discussion with -anyone-. There's nothing humble in keeping my mind open to that - incredibly ignorant, sure, humble...not even close.
1) God doesn't exist
2) If he exists, he has not made himself known to anyone.
And if you want to remain logical, you would have to prove these.
The legitimacy of an experience and the legitimacy of a claim -beyond that experience- are entirely separate issues. An often used example is alien abduction. Those people have clearly had a "legitimate experience" - that doesn't mean that aliens abducted them.
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