RE: In need of a more humbleness. Why condemning the Theistic position makes no sense.
September 20, 2014 at 10:53 pm
(This post was last modified: September 20, 2014 at 10:59 pm by Mystic.)
Yeah. I think in general we are all are too arrogant. As far theists go, it's a dead end. Their religion justifies their judgement more often then not. But I think if Atheist take this more humble approach, it would be better and more respectable and honorable.
Well if you look at the verse in my signature, it shows all good people will enter paradise. Those who do good will enter paradise. There were a lot of scholars even in the early days of Islam that said disbelievers meant in context of socio-political group, particularly those who were fighting Mohammad and the believers at that time in Arabia. It didn't refer to everyone who didn't believe or would not believe in the future.
The Shia hadiths in detail say that anyone who doesn't know the truth and doesn't oppose it, would not be judged as a "disbeliever" that is condemned in Quran.
It's one of those debatable things but I think if you take account verses like the one in my signature, as well as verses that talk about the nature of humanity being the true religion of God, I think you come to realize the Quran perhaps didn't come with this dogmatic view that we see many scholars did come up with.
(September 20, 2014 at 10:52 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(September 20, 2014 at 10:23 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I don't know too much about the Bible, but I know Quran teaches freedom of religion.You mean Allah doesn't plan on throwing me or the believers of any other faith in a lake of fire after all?
The most general possible reading of a Quran based "freedom of religion" is akin to
"Don't you guys worry about it, I'll torture them myself"
Congratu-fucking-lations Islam, for being so tolerant.
Well if you look at the verse in my signature, it shows all good people will enter paradise. Those who do good will enter paradise. There were a lot of scholars even in the early days of Islam that said disbelievers meant in context of socio-political group, particularly those who were fighting Mohammad and the believers at that time in Arabia. It didn't refer to everyone who didn't believe or would not believe in the future.
The Shia hadiths in detail say that anyone who doesn't know the truth and doesn't oppose it, would not be judged as a "disbeliever" that is condemned in Quran.
It's one of those debatable things but I think if you take account verses like the one in my signature, as well as verses that talk about the nature of humanity being the true religion of God, I think you come to realize the Quran perhaps didn't come with this dogmatic view that we see many scholars did come up with.
