In need of a more humbleness. Why condemning the Theistic position makes no sense.

[Celestine]

For claiming not to be bitter your character seems to betray you, in the book 'the shepherd of hermas' there is a quote that "The bearing of a grudge worketh death"

You claim not to have a grudge and that could be true but you seem very bitter if not even able to recognize it yourself. Bitterness is a lot like a grudge except it is a knife in which we plunge into our own hearts so that they may become hollow, in this way a grudge does worketh death not of the person we hold the grudge against but our own emotional death that disconnects us from ourselves. You claim you're not bitter, and that may be so, but your character presents that you are.

Is this... honestly the extent of your argument? Nothing more than an attack on the character of the arguer, rather than the content of the argumentation?

"You don't agree with me, so there must be something wrong with you!" The catch cry of the religious-minded who can't approach an argument on its own terms, and so seeks to bring down the person daring to disagree with them via ad hominems. How dishonest.

My entreating him to a philosophy on bitterness and grudges had to do this quote he said.

-and when you figure out what there is to learn from such narratives go ahead and get back to me. Until then, meh. I think it would be a wonderful discussion, I keep waiting for you to get it rolling. I can see you're far too busy for that, though - carry on.

He said 'when you figure out what there is to learn from such narratives go ahead and get back to me.'

So I thought I would pick that quote from the Shepherd of Hermas which is an early Christian document to show him a philosophy on bitterness which is something at least from what I observed to be part of his character due to his negativity. And could then be used to not only reflect on his character if he chooses to do so, but also present the moral philosophy tucked away beneath the blanket of religion that he had asked for.

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What can I answer on that which I do not know of?