RE: you know i made a really good observation
November 2, 2014 at 4:49 pm
(This post was last modified: November 2, 2014 at 4:53 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(November 2, 2014 at 4:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:Stalin's body count was much higher than Hitler's.
Particularly of Germans.
No, were talking about his own people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin
Quote:Some have also included the deaths of 6 to 8 million people in the 1932–1933 famine among the victims of Stalin's repression. This categorization is controversial however, as historians differ as to whether the famine was a deliberate part of the campaign of repression against kulaks and others, or simply an unintended consequence of the struggle over forced collectivization.
Accordingly, if famine victims are included, a minimum of around 10 million deaths—6 million from famine and 4 million from other causes—are attributable to the regime, with a number of recent historians suggesting a likely total of around 20 million, citing much higher victim totals from executions, Gulag camps, deportations and other causes. Adding 6–8 million famine victims to Erlikman's estimates above, for example, would yield a total of between 15 and 17 million victims. Researcher Robert Conquest, meanwhile, has revised his original estimate of up to 30 million victims down to 20 million.
Oh, and then there is Mao Zedong (also atheist)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin
Quote:The official statistic is 20 million deaths, as given by Hu Yaobang. Yang Jisheng, a former Xinhua News Agency reporter who had privileged access and connections available to no other scholars, estimates a death toll of 36 million. Frank Dikötter estimates that there were at least 45 million premature deaths attributable to the Great Leap Forward from 1958 to 1962. Various other sources have put the figure at between 20 and 46 million.
So between Stalin and Mao, were looking at a total of 65 million people dead.... Sounds like a utopia.
To put it in perspective, Hitler's body count was 6 million...