(November 30, 2014 at 4:22 pm)Heywood Wrote:(November 30, 2014 at 4:09 pm)Jenny A Wrote: By the way, there is broader problem with the complex universe argument. That is that it is only in a universe that encourages enough complexity to allow the development of conscious life that the question of complexity can be discussed. Thus if there are other possible universes, it is of no great improbability that we should be in one which allows complexity as we couldn't be in one that doesn't.
All you are doing here is positing the existence of a multiverse.
Not really. Even if ours is only one of many universes that might exist, then we could still only discuss the issue is ours allowed us to develop.
(November 30, 2014 at 4:22 pm)Heywood Wrote: I consider the possibility of a multiverse and the possibility of purposeful fine tuning. I lean toward one more than the other because in my experience realities cannot come into existence unless there is the involvement of an intellect.
No one has an experience of "realities" coming into existence. This is the only reality any of us has any experience with. And we haven't seen it come into existence. Novels, computer simulations, movies, etc are not really realities. Anyone playing a game is aware that any simulated reality is just a thought experiment played in this universe.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
