RE: If the universe was fine tuned for our life...
November 30, 2014 at 5:48 pm
(This post was last modified: November 30, 2014 at 5:53 pm by Heywood.)
(November 30, 2014 at 5:23 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(November 30, 2014 at 4:22 pm)Heywood Wrote: Do you think causality is also a fallacy of composition?
Of course not. However, if we grant one of your premises, that certain sub-realities require intellect to create, and you conclude from this that the reality containing said sub-realities requires intellect to exist, then you most certainly have committed a fallacy of composition. In fact, said observed sub-realities are not realities at all, but more properly described as models or simulations.
How you came up with "you think causality is fallacious?" from that is beyond me.
Premise A: Realities can contain sub realities.
Premise B: We observe sub realities coming into existence.
Premise C: We always observe the hand of intellect participating in the creation of a sub reality.
Premise D: We never observe sub realities coming into existence without an intellect.
Conclusion: Our observations suggest that sub realities require the hand of intellect to come into existence.
Where is this the composition fallacy in the above argument? Is there a composition fallacy in this next argument?
Premise E: We always observe effects having causes.
Premise D: We never observe effects not having causes.
Conclusion: Our observations suggest that effects always have causes.
(November 30, 2014 at 5:45 pm)rasetsu Wrote:(November 30, 2014 at 5:39 pm)Heywood Wrote: I am not claiming there has to be a creator for every sub reality. If you think this then you clearly do not understand the argument I am making. I am claiming that since we observe sub realities coming into existence via the hand of intellect....and never observe sub realities coming into existence sans intellect....that fact gives strength to the conjecture that all sub realities require intellects to come into existence. I am making an inductive argument...not a deductive one.
Chameleon-like animals create subrealities with the appearance of their environment without the use of intellect. You're making an induction from a sample size of 1 - humans. That's not an induction, that's a hasty generalization.
I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about here.....but chameleon like animals have intellect....just not the same magnitude of human intellect.
You will have to try harder.
